macca
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Post by macca on Sept 5, 2012 13:53:43 GMT -5
My young bloke got in the local under 15 1sts team and the school 1st 11 this week so he is in the good books.
He went really well at the school trials, so much so that the coach contacted me and wanted to know all about him and who showed him all the deliveries.
He told me he had some good batsmen in knots in the trials and was the most accurate bowler by a mile. But we get that every season 'cause he bowls all year and most of the other bowlers were probably rolling their arms over for the first time in a while.
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Post by Someblokecalledave on Sept 5, 2012 16:37:52 GMT -5
Good to here Macca, sounds like he's got a good season ahead of him, you'll have to get vids posted up on youtube to let us all see how he's getting along. My own son has finished his season in the U13's scooping best bowler for the U15's and another kid we knock about with in the Paddock who I introduced to the game scooped the U13's best bowler! My son Ben got the under 15's award just on the basis of playing in their matches 4 times, but his performances in those games smashed all the U15 lads. One of the coaches at the club said they'll put him forward to trial for the U15's district team (Southern Essex). Fingers crossed - that might pan out well for him.
Take a look at our members list we've got a new bloke on the forum you might know from around your neck of the woods.
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Post by goldenarm on Sept 5, 2012 16:44:57 GMT -5
My young bloke got in the local under 15 1sts team and the school 1st 11 this week so he is in the good books. He went really well at the school trials, so much so that the coach contacted me and wanted to know all about him and who showed him all the deliveries. He told me he had some good batsmen in knots in the trials and was the most accurate bowler by a mile. But we get that every season 'cause he bowls all year and most of the other bowlers were probably rolling their arms over for the first time in a while. Great to hear Macca, dead chuffed for him. It'd be nice if you could put up a few vids of him showing off. I'd love to see the looks on the coaches faces seeing this young lad going round the loop. Which is his best variation out of interest?
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Post by Someblokecalledave on Sept 5, 2012 16:57:25 GMT -5
Rob, do you all see the stats on the opening (home) page when you view it... lists of members and who posted last and where?
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Post by goldenarm on Sept 5, 2012 17:06:11 GMT -5
Rob, do you all see the stats on the opening (home) page when you view it... lists of members and who posted last and where? yes mate I can see all the stats/post history.
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macca
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Post by macca on Sept 6, 2012 1:26:05 GMT -5
Great to hear Macca, dead chuffed for him. It'd be nice if you could put up a few vids of him showing off. I'd love to see the looks on the coaches faces seeing this young lad going round the loop. Which is his best variation out of interest?[/quote]
Thanks mate. Yeah we will shoot some new stuff soon and go through his stuff.
His topspinner is his best variation I reckon. It takes off sometimes and the bounce can be remarkable. At the school trials he got the sports master fair in the stomach with his topspinner.
And he gave him a serve as well, it goes like this "yes got him! got him in the guts, not a wicket but the next best thing"
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Post by tonym on Sept 6, 2012 3:49:50 GMT -5
Macca, great news on Jimmy and love the afters too (not always a fan as I like to keep the whole sledging thing to a pretty low level when I coach, but there are times... ) Dave, also good news re Ben and Frank Quick question, do you think its a mental or physical thing that keeps a youngsters bowling spin? We now have a decent stock of spinners at our junior club from 1 (offie) in under 15s, 4 in under 13s (dont ask? - two bowlers converted this year but they are all different, offie & topspinner now joined by SLA and leggie) and a googlie bowler in the 11s with a potential leggie coming up next year. None of the coaches are specialist spin coaches and whilst we had a great chap come to our summer camp, I am now wondering what to put in place for them for the winter / next season. Its going to be difficult for the age group coaches to give them enough quality time and expertise so would it be better to have specialist spin sessions? We have done this with the keepers in the past across the age groups, but never had enough spinners to make it viable
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Post by funk192 on Sept 6, 2012 7:07:58 GMT -5
His topspinner is his best variation I reckon. It takes off sometimes and the bounce can be remarkable. At the school trials he got the sports master fair in the stomach with his topspinner. Hah! I had something similar happen, I had a lefty try to come forward and sweep me, at that time I was getting alot of dip, it was an overspun leg break and needless to say the ball spun into the side of his jaw and smack!
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Post by macca on Sept 6, 2012 13:41:46 GMT -5
I had no idea until this evening when we re registered at the clubhouse that everyone knows about jimmys' legspin and expect big things from him this season.
Our club has a young bloke not much older than my son, maybe 15 or 16, that has already played first grade as a legspinner at age 14 or 15.
He was the youngest legspinner to play first grade in the comp since dutchy holland. So you would think he would be pretty good, and believe me, he is.
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Post by Someblokecalledave on Sept 6, 2012 16:42:32 GMT -5
Macca, great news on Jimmy and love the afters too (not always a fan as I like to keep the whole sledging thing to a pretty low level when I coach, but there are times... ) Dave, also good news re Ben and Frank Quick question, do you think its a mental or physical thing that keeps a youngsters bowling spin? We now have a decent stock of spinners at our junior club from 1 (offie) in under 15s, 4 in under 13s (dont ask? - two bowlers converted this year but they are all different, offie & topspinner now joined by SLA and leggie) and a googlie bowler in the 11s with a potential leggie coming up next year. None of the coaches are specialist spin coaches and whilst we had a great chap come to our summer camp, I am now wondering what to put in place for them for the winter / next season. Its going to be difficult for the age group coaches to give them enough quality time and expertise so would it be better to have specialist spin sessions? We have done this with the keepers in the past across the age groups, but never had enough spinners to make it viable That's a tricky one, it seems that our club there are spinners and there have been spinners in the past, but none of them have put themselves forward to take on the role as mentor till me in my un-official role. Before I came along and stepped up the job the arrangements for encouraging the spinners seemed to be "No son, that's not the way to do it, the seam is upright and you pull the fingers down the back of the ball and bowl as fast as you can" e.g. they discouraged it! The way we did it last year in the nets, is that I basically wandered from the U15's net to the U13's net giving encouragement and making very small suggestions. We've discussed this in the past and it's very easy to over-burden a kid with a load of ideas, so you know the logic behind that. Additionally I was only dealing with 3 spinners at any one time an SLA, and a couple of wrist spinners one of which was Frank. With regards to what keeps them interested? I'm not 100%, but I reckon it's mental, I reckon it's an intrinsic desire to be different, but the same desire will be challenged by bad phases and poor performances and then they need some of that love that Warne talks about at the end of one of his vids. So in essence - I think a lot of the input has to just be about encouragement and setting small targets and keeping it simple. I saw this work to really good effect with my son Joe where one of the coaches challenged him to bowl 2 consecutive balls and then restart, but over the period of the net he got him up to 5 good balls and he was buzzing. It was about setting achievable goals and working from there.
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Post by Someblokecalledave on Sept 9, 2012 8:31:23 GMT -5
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Post by graeme on Sept 10, 2012 1:50:00 GMT -5
Macca, that's great news on your son. It's good to know your son is famous amongst the selectors! I was also pleasantly surprised by the amount of "back-room" talk that goes on about the leggies in our area - everyone seems to keep an eye on what the local leggies are doing and you only find out about it when someone you don't know approaches and talks about how your son has been discussed in the circles of the game. (In my case, everyone knew about Sean's cut finger and knew he was the leggy they were watching late last season.) As to what keeps kids doing it: I think it's the intellectual challenge presented by the spin repertoire. My 13 year old loves the idea of "tricking" his opponents into playing the wrong stroke with fine skills, rather than simple outright pace. Outside cricket, he shows a remarkable talent for problem solving, and I think he is applying the same talent in his consideration of how he should get a batsman out. I fully encourage him there, telling him that spin bowling is as much about psychology as it is about the skill of bowling a ball. I tell him he has to "F*** with their minds!", to which he smiles in his normal mischievous manner. He gets it ... I think it's the same metality that makes kids get into practical jokes. They think it's a bit of fun to make other kids look a little foolish, like Gatting Vs Warne. cheers, Graeme
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Post by macca on Sept 10, 2012 3:15:43 GMT -5
Young blokes first school game this friday.
Strong cricket tradition at my boys school. They play their comp on some really beautiful christian college grounds.
And how's this? a boy in his final year is in the national under 18 development squad! How good is that? only 24 picked from the whole commonwealth of australia.
One thing my son hates is a "try hard". He trains all year nearly, but he doesn't like anyone to really know that.
But he is ready to fire on friday i reckon. He is spinning it big and pitching them right in the slot.
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Post by macca on Sept 14, 2012 0:27:19 GMT -5
I just caught the last few overs of my sons first game for his school. They won and he took 3/9 off 4 in a 20/20. 3 dropped catches as well. First wicket bowled, second caught by keeper third caught at slip.
I know he must have went well because of the stuff i overheard about how good the legspinner bowled.
The great thing is at his school is when they play cricket all the teachers and students come out to watch and he was never considered a sportsman or likely to be good at anything athletic but now the whole school saw him take the most wickets and cause the most trouble with the ball and in 3 overs he has all the male teachers who saw him coming up to him and telling him he is a little champion legspinner.
He has gone from a nobody to being the talk of the school this afternoon. The best thing too, is at his school when they see someone with a bit of talent at anything they go out of their way to help develop it.
I was worried he was a little over confident this morning before the game but he is very strong psychologically as a bowler.
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Post by Someblokecalledave on Sept 15, 2012 18:36:28 GMT -5
That's brilliant Macca, I bet your pretty proud of the lad, it must especially brilliant with the fact that they'd written him off and now here he is in the arena of his choice and he's coming up with the goods. The whole thing then rounded off by the fact that he's playing to an audience as such, that's so good that the whole school comes out and supports the team.
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