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Post by Someblokecalledave on Jan 14, 2013 10:07:38 GMT -5
Mysteryspin do you also comment over on Bigcricket (Where most of us have migrated from)? If you don't it might be worth commenting over on there, sign up and post your question there as there's a lot more people on there including a bio-mechanist... Liz Ward. If she's still around on that forum she'll give you some indication as to what's going on.
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macca
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Post by macca on Jan 14, 2013 13:03:26 GMT -5
Now I know what you do, we have a kid at our club who does the same thing more or less and he can spin it big both ways. He came at it more as an offspinner. You sound like you come at it from the legspin side of it?
But he gave it up this season and now bowls medium pace. I wished he would have stuck to spin bowling and his unusual method because he was a real handful to bat against.
I dont remember him having any trouble with his bowling hand or wrist but he never trained all that much so injury never came up i suppose.
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Post by mysteryspin on Jan 20, 2013 3:35:18 GMT -5
Thanks both for the help.
No I don't have a Bigcricket account but I think I've found the cause. The weekend I posted initially I went into the backyard and did some long bowling sessions which for the offie alone and the leggie alone they didn't cause anything (though it isn't that much of a replication of practice/nets sessions as the wall is about two meters in front of where my action concludes so the follow through is a little quicker to get the return catch from the wall to prevent the practice ball hitting the face) but when I had the longer sessions of both balls it did do a little bit at the end.
After spending the little spare time I had in the week looking through various medical references and all that it wasn't until I found a couple general fitness websites that basically said that it is common for muscles in the arms, hands, legs or feet to have a short temporary tremor after a vigorous work out that dehydrates the area around it and builds up lots of lactic acid. It doesn't tremor during exercise as the lactic acid basically sloshes about and it isn't until it pools in an area that it can do that and it can be affected by nerves that having been repeatedly used for a long period of time can still remain excited or innervated from the work out. Rather than being a sign of anything wrong it seemed to indicate that it is a good sign of a good work out for those muscles. I can see why it would happen when I bowl both in a practice session as I tend to bowl for longer when bowling both to give both a proper practice and also I'd spend the time constantly spinning the ball in the hand one way then the other.
Well I started as a leggie then I sort of worked on developing both after I dropped bowling the googly completely. I stopped bowling the googly after it caused an injury in my shoulder at one point that made it painful when bowling either my leg break or googly which basically left me with just a top spinner and a back spinner for half a season though that was a useful learning experience for flight. After the injury subsided I got my big leg break back and I experimented with a finger spun off break but got disappointing results then gave this more unusual wrist spun offie which was far better. It took about as many years as the leg break to perfect in the end as the action is even more unnatural than for the leg break but it has been worth it. Though despite my username (I had the same user name registered at cricinfo awhile back so more for consistency) I don't really see myself as a mystery spinner mixing in leggies and offies regularly in the same over, I tend to choose to base my attack to a particular batsman around on one of these as a stock delivery with variations of top and back spin using the same action as which ever delivery I use for stock. Whilst I may readily switch between leggie and offie for different batsman I tend to stick to the one I think most effective to that batsman and only rarely use the other to play a bit of mind games. Reason being it seems more effective using the likes of top spinners and back spinners as a variation to whichever one I'm using as stock as it is easier to disguise as the line that the offie and leggie are most effective on are quite noticeably different that an intelligent batsman can play them off the line they're bowled on. That and the top and back spinners can be just as effective without the one going the other way as Warney demonstrated in the 2005 Ashes. So really I see myself as either a leg spinner or a wristy off spinner depending on the batsman rather than a mixture.
Well I can assure you that I won't be going down that route. Whilst I briefly flirted with medium fast spinners like Sydney Barnes of yesteryear my passion is really with bowling spin which it may sound silly but I'd rather fail at being a spinner (of whatever speed) than succeed as a seamer.
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Post by cricketdudeguy on Jan 29, 2013 6:37:50 GMT -5
i m have a problem i hit my ankle when driving off the front foot when the balls seaming in a follow it and it my ankle i dont like to give up my wicket or hot my ankle what do i do.
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Post by Someblokecalledave on Jan 29, 2013 13:48:35 GMT -5
Yeah, that's just cricket. Despite what a lot of people think, it can be quite a tough game and quite confrontational (When you get a bit older)! In the past few years I've dislocated my finger and my thumb and taken some balls on the shins when fielding, that have ballooned up and left bruises and bumps that have been there for the best part of a year, but I'm 52.
It'll be sore for a while your ankle, and if its bad get some ice on it every now and then or get your foot in ice cold water for 10 mins or so, that'll reduce the bruising and swelling. But you just have to accept that every now and then you'll get hit by the ball somewhere, where it hurts - Have a look at this, this'll put your own injuries into perspective...
Was the injury in practice? If it happened in practice, maybe consider using training balls. Or when you can practice with training balls specifically with that shot/approach, so that you're more prepared when it comes to using proper balls?
Hope it gets better soon!
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Post by cricketdudeguy on Jan 30, 2013 6:31:16 GMT -5
yeah i hit it in the same spot twice with 12hr and yes in training dave. i hit myseld with the bat .
the match hit myseld with the bat on the ankle twice and a ball hit my elbow and one in the helment that shock mr up a bit no were near as bad as the vid though
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Post by cricketdudeguy on Jan 30, 2013 6:32:57 GMT -5
serves the poms right remember bodyline
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Post by cricketdudeguy on Jan 30, 2013 6:33:17 GMT -5
same thing but the windiesdoing it this time
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