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Post by billywhizz on Aug 25, 2012 17:05:02 GMT -5
I've recently got back into cricket after a 27 year lay off and should have my first game next week.
I mainly bowl legbreaks and toppies but recently I've been slamming the odd fast seam ball in - and it seems to catch a lot of batsman out. I use the same run up and very similar arm action to bowl the fast ones .
Anyone else tried this in a match situation ?.
Good to see the new forum up and running Dave.
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Post by goldenarm on Aug 25, 2012 17:16:45 GMT -5
I used to use a delivery like this a lot before I had control over my variations, it seamed in quite a long way and I did get a fair few people clean bowled with it, but I'm a bit of a purist so I stopped doing it and worked super hard on developing a proper googly. I'm always shouting at the young offie at my club for mucking around bowling leg breaks and seamers when he should be concentrating on ripping his stock ball. If I want a ball to really zip i'll try and bowl a nice flipper rather than resort to a seamer, but on wet pitches a flipper is next to useless of course so there is definitely merit to what you're doing. Depending on what standard you play at I think a Captain would be of the opinion that if it takes wickets it can only be a good thing, so long as it doesn't impact negatively on any area of your bowling otherwise. If you're on beautifully prepared, hard wickets every week you'd probably find it to be quite ineffective, but in general league cricket on a lot of uncovered pitches i'm sure it will work a treat.
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Post by Someblokecalledave on Aug 25, 2012 17:20:20 GMT -5
Cheers Bill, we'll have to see how it goes, but so far so good and thanks for joining us! I seem to remember back in the my early days I used to use the cross-seamed "Slider", which I think I'm right in saying is a variation used by seam bowlers as well (Slow Ball)? I was never happy with it, but at my age trying to bowl that much faster is a bit obvious.
I also find that batsmen kind of recognise the flight and characteristics of faster balls as they're the main thing they're used to seeing and they just go into auto-pilot mode and play an appropriate shot. I always seem have my Flippers given the treatment if they're bowled that bit faster - especially if the batsman is any good.
How's your Top-Spinner - that's a ball I'm looking at - at the moment and looking to ressurect after neglecting for a few years?
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Post by Someblokecalledave on Aug 25, 2012 17:22:55 GMT -5
I think Chippyben over on Bigcricket had a fast ball variation, but his background is that he's been a seam bowler all his life and has only recently seen the light, so it makes sense that he'd be able to pull one of those out of his kit bag with no effort.
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Post by billywhizz on Aug 25, 2012 17:31:39 GMT -5
It'll be with the second team, and from what I've heard the remaining games are not on top wickets.
I used to ball fast and still have the speed in my arm even on the short run up (seems as fast the main pace bowler). I may have to give WK the heads up before I bowl one though.
Is there any etiquette involved? if I jam one into the ribs of the opposing paceman after bowling mainly leggies, will he try and take my head off when I bat?
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Post by goldenarm on Aug 25, 2012 17:36:44 GMT -5
It'll be with the second team, and from what I've heard the remaining games are not on top wickets. I used to ball fast and still have the speed in my arm even on the short run up (seems as fast the main pace bowler). I may have to give WK the heads up before I bowl one though. Is there any etiquette involved? if I jam one into the ribs of the opposing paceman after bowling mainly leggies, will he try and take my head off when I bat? On uncovered wickets you'll probably find your normal legbreak is so deadly when you land it right you may not even need your seamer. Saying that though you might end up spinning it past the batsmen so many times and not getting anything for it that your change up will be just the job if he doesn't read it. I wouldn't worry about etiquette too much! But blimey you must have a quick arm if you can get bouncers out at a decent pace from a spinners run up, will you not find it just digs into the pitch and sits up to be smacked? |
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Post by Someblokecalledave on Aug 25, 2012 17:43:21 GMT -5
It'll be with the second team, and from what I've heard the remaining games are not on top wickets. I used to ball fast and still have the speed in my arm even on the short run up (seems as fast the main pace bowler). I may have to give WK the heads up before I bowl one though. Is there any etiquette involved? if I jam one into the ribs of the opposing paceman after bowling mainly leggies, will he try and take my head off when I bat? No - that's the nature of the game, that's one of the things I love about cricket and yeah, when it's your turn to bat be ready for a barrage of fast stuff if he's a bowler! On uncovered wickets you'll probably find your normal legbreak is so deadly when you land it right you may not even need your seamer. Saying that though you might end up spinning it past the batsmen so many times and not getting anything for it that your change up will be just the job if he doesn't read it. I wouldn't worry about etiquette too much! But blimey you must have a quick arm if you can get bouncers out at a decent pace from a spinners run up, will you not find it just digs into the pitch and sits up to be smacked? |
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Post by billywhizz on Aug 25, 2012 17:54:07 GMT -5
I think cause I'm used to bowling in the nets on the artificial surface the odd fast one seems to jump up, even on a decent length. Thanks for the advice though Goldearm I'll keep it pitched up.
I'll probably start with the legbreaks at the match as I dont have to think about technique etc and assess the turn / bats weakness.
The top spinner seems pretty effective Dave, but because I give it a big rip - the lower back doesnt like it(something to work on over the winter).
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Post by Someblokecalledave on Aug 25, 2012 18:09:07 GMT -5
Core strength exercises mate I reckon, the plank and touching your toes and a bit of yoga thrown in there as well!  |
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