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Post by thatleggie on Jan 28, 2013 15:44:21 GMT -5
Hey,
I'm a 14 year old leg spinner. I used to play with a plastic cricket ball and was able to turn the ball a fair bit. However, as I joined my cricket club (U-15) and played with a real cricket ball bowling in the nets, I haven't been able to turn the ball. I also have been getting marks on the inside of my first finger from bowling.
If anyone could help me to spin the ball, I would really appreciate it.
-Thanks!
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Post by Someblokecalledave on Jan 28, 2013 16:07:23 GMT -5
This could be for a number of reasons, one of the more obvious might be the 'Plastic' ball you were using had different grip properties? Or maybe the plastic ball + the surface you were bowling on combined? Maybe you're now using a cricket ball on a wicket surface that doesn't readily combine with the ball to produce spin? Watch the cricket ball out of your hand is the seam spinning in a way that you should be getting spin -and maybe compare with your plastic ball out of the hand?
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Post by thatleggie on Jan 28, 2013 16:23:00 GMT -5
Hey
I used to play on a real pitch, but in the nets its the regular matting; which is the type of pitch we play our games on. As I watched the seam, I notice that I kind of have the seam going like a UFO, which gives me drift but no/little spin. Probably trying to make it go all the way down the 22 yards. Does a Kookaburra spin more than a Duke? If anyone's free, I could upload a video of me bowling for criticism.
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Post by Someblokecalledave on Jan 28, 2013 17:24:52 GMT -5
Ah, that's really interesting, the fact that you get the ball coming out like a UFO type spin and maybe the answer to your problems. Is the plastic ball - hard plastic or more rubbery, because I can imagine that type of ball gripping more readily than the cricket ball. With the UFO spin on a cricket ball the smooth surface is going to grip far less I reckon than the plastic ball. What you need to do is start releasing the ball with a different wrist position in order to get the ball spinning with the seam upright. The ball needs to land on the seam in order to grip, you'll get some turn then! Have a look at the video linked here and you'll see what you need to do, you need to practice like this all the time - use a ball, apple, orange - anything, just do it all the time - flick, flick, flick - all the time, outside, indoors, watching the tele - all the time and your wrist will become supple and be able to flick the ball imparting the spin...
Yeah - upload a video, we'd love to see it and we'll give you some feedback.
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Post by thatleggie on Jan 28, 2013 17:40:49 GMT -5
Righto, I'll give it a try. I'll get the video by this Sunday; cause that's when I'm at my club again.
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Post by Someblokecalledave on Jan 28, 2013 18:12:23 GMT -5
Nice one. look forward to seeing it.
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Post by macca on Jan 29, 2013 1:01:15 GMT -5
You might be spinning it , just not sidespinning it ? Anyway you want to get sidespin most of the time, with a degree of topspin a lot of the time to get on so you will want to figure out what's going on and get it sorted.
A clip of your bowling might help for sure. My young blokes ufo ball doesn't spin either, it goes straight on.
Most leggies get the sore ring finger and not so much first finger. Not unheard of but usually first and third will be damaged together from overbowling. How is your ring finger? Does it get sore as well?
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Post by thatleggie on Jan 29, 2013 14:06:58 GMT -5
My ring Finger is fine, since the ball wasn't spinning I was trying to grip it real tight and give it a big rip, it certainly drifted, but didn't spin. I'll get the clip up here by Sunday.
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Post by macca on Jan 29, 2013 14:16:53 GMT -5
Usually if you are getting drift and no spin it means the surface is the problem. Damp matting for instance. A degree of backspin can help to spin the ball on what seems like a non-spinning surface.
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Post by thatleggie on Jan 29, 2013 16:24:12 GMT -5
It's in the nets, not damp at all, I'll try the back spin you suggested this Sunday.
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Post by thatleggie on Feb 3, 2013 21:05:44 GMT -5
I'm uploading the video soon, but I experimented a bit in the nets and here is what happened:
-I tried a wrong-un
->Over the wicket, it was literally a square turning leg break, turned MASSIVE, no drift (if any a little away)
->Around the Wicket, to the lefties, on off, and an orthodox wrong-un, decent turn, amazing bounce
Any ideas why this happens?
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Post by thatleggie on Feb 3, 2013 21:51:37 GMT -5
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Post by leftie600 on Feb 4, 2013 3:41:27 GMT -5
Don't take this the wrong way but it looks like you don't use your wrist when bowling a leg break, you have to use your wrist when bowling a wrong-un hence why you occasionally get the big bounce and turn you are seeing. When you bowl over the wicket and try a wrong-un you are getting the wrist in a great position for a leg break, when you come round the wicket the wrist and your action align for a wrong-un.
I suggest you talk to a coach and go through some 'round the loop' drills (leg break to toppie to wrong-un). Start slow though, these things take time and a lot of practice.
The good new is that you're only 14 and have a wrong-un! Some legspinners never even get that far.
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Post by thatleggie on Feb 4, 2013 8:12:08 GMT -5
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Post by Someblokecalledave on Feb 6, 2013 16:51:35 GMT -5
We're always interested, but it does help if you give us the whole picture as such. In order to analyse and give you feedback we need to see all of the action. We need to see how much of a run-up you have, if you come in at an angle, what your gather is like, your approach to the crease, your bound, where you land on the crease, what your leading arm does, how much you explode through the crease, where your hips and shoulders are through your rotation, whether you stand tall through your action, whether you pivot, where your leading arm goes and how you follow through - this is all before the ball even lands. Ideally you'd video that from 3 angles - (1). behind, (2). From the front, (3). From the side looking at your chest.
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